Sunday, January 13, 2008

Ron Paul's Policies

The reaction to Ron Paul's sinking campaign is a bit interesting for a number of reasons. First, assuming his views reflect the best possible outcome, it assumes that he will be able to implement his policies. Politics are usually incremental with exceptions coming only after major events. The New Deal came during the Great Depression. Civil Rights legislation came 10 years African Americans first started protesting segregation. The War Powers Act came after Vietnam. Reagan's tax cuts came during the worst recession since the Great Depression. Finally, the Patriot Act came after 9/11. What is the catalyst that would allow Ron Paul push through his reforms such as massively reforming the tax code or getting rid of the Fed? It wouldnt happen, at least right now. Maybe in 3 years if the housing bust causes another great depression but not now. Lament Ron Paul's demise all you want but his ideas were always a long shot to become reality.

Having given Ron Paul the benefit of the doubt, time to poke some holes. His idea to close all our military bases oversees is ludicrous. America's military presence oversees, troops in Germany, Korea, Japan, Turkey and elsewhere help create stability. That stability gives investors, both American and locals, the confidence to invest. You can criticize American interference, and we have had our share of bungling, but in aggregate it has created more global stability than otherwise.

Pulling out of the UN would be equally stupid. You can criticize UN for more reasons than I can count. However, the net effect of allowing all countries to have a voice in global affairs supercedes its limitations. Ron Paul is an isolationist, a policy that hasnt had any real credibility since the 1930s, and frankly was long outdated by then.

The real issue here is that Ron Paul, and any isolationist, wants us to ignore our role as a global leader. That is irresponsible and ultimately not in our best interest. The only way to be a global leader is to be at the forefront of global affairs and that means engaging in the UN and having troops oversees ready to intervene when appropriate. Bush's policies are not an issue of taking leadership where we shouldnt but rather pure incompetance. Containing Hussein required US leadership. The error was in the meglomaniacal way we chose to deal with the situation. Like nature, power abhors a vacuum. If the US retreated from its leadership role, a new order would emerge and not likely for the better. At the very least, increased global instability would be a much less favorable place for business and make a us all poorer regardless of his domestic economic policies.

13 Comments:

Blogger Not Sure if Al Gore or Global Warming is a Bigger Joke said...

I don't have time right now to counter almost everyone of your arguments, but the strategist and marketers for the powers that be would be very proud to here you spout off their propaganda bullshit as reality.

Most people want peace in the world, there is a group in power that cause wars - every war in the last 100years was planned and strategized by people who funded both sides.

You probably think Iran is a threat too don't you?

Well, count on me being back here but i have to run right now.

3:19 PM  
Blogger Odoacer said...

What propaganda? Iran is or is not a threat. Black or white. No shades of gray. So simplistically thought out.

Sorry I forgot Hitler was a prop for the illuminati...

9:12 PM  
Blogger MattKelly54 said...

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12:58 PM  
Blogger MattKelly54 said...

Well it is clear who the spoon fed, establishment loving bubble boys are from our class.

Keep taking what they give you. Nothing. If you do not want freedom and liberty in this country, then back whoever you want. Vote for Hillary. Do not vote for the truth. Make up some BS reason. He touches kids, and hates blacks. I'm sure. It is funny to me that you believe what is said by the media.

12:59 PM  
Blogger MattKelly54 said...

El Cid,

Why is it the our job to have military bases anywhere?

Where does Brazil have military bases? Argentina? China? Cuba?

4:04 PM  
Blogger Odoacer said...

Spoonfed!?!?!?! You might want to ask me about my background before you make such statements. And calling me establishment loving is like Malcom X calling Martin Luther King an uncle tom. Its all about your frame of reference. Finally, I have to note the irony that the everyone who is now "anti-establishment" voted for Bush in 04. I mean, you helped create this mess with your vote.

Regarding what I beleive about Paul, my statements about foreign policy are based on what Ron Paul himself said on Meet the Press. Finally, it was his own newsletter that made the racist statements - nobody disputes the statements were made. What kind of idiot doesnt know what was said on his own newsletter?

Regarding the necessity of bases oversees, that would require a doctoral dissertation. Maybe there is a benefit to having a History degree from undergrad. Maybe over drinks sometime. Or, do a thought experiment and think about what the world would like if we retreated to isolationism. And dont say the world would be the same only we would have fewer military expenditures. As a case study think about investing in the Balkans in 1998 vs 2008.

7:28 PM  
Blogger MattKelly54 said...

I would vote for Bush again.

8:02 AM  
Blogger MattKelly54 said...

over John Kerry.

8:02 AM  
Blogger MattKelly54 said...

Maybe you read the book Empire of Debt. And throw away your fake degree.

8:04 AM  
Blogger Odoacer said...

You still didnt address the key point. What was the probability that all of his ideas would get through congress? Bush wanted a flat tax - he got a small income tax cut and cap gains and dividend cut. He wanted to reform social security he got... The first 6 years Bush had more power than any president since Nixon, maybe Roosevelt, and he still only made modest reforms. Again, the places he made major changes - the ie Patriot Act and homeland security - were direct responses to 9/11. The Fed isnt going away and at best, a base here or there would be closed. Maybe in 2012 if the world is in a new great depression his ideas will be agreed and acted upon and a new version of Ron Paul will emerge.

I would vote for Sparky, my dead dog from childhood, over Bush. Kerry was a modest improvement from that.

10:32 AM  
Blogger MattKelly54 said...

What is the probability that he gets elected? I love how you think you are a genius because a long shot probability did not happen.

It is not like a coin flip. Expectations were low.

12:37 PM  
Blogger MattKelly54 said...

What is the probability that any President gets anything accomplished. What is the probability that Paul vetos everything? High. What is the probability that spending decreased over any other candidate if he were to get elected? High.

What is your point?

You are happy that Ron Paul did not win Iowa and New Hampshire? The reality is that the more votes he gets the more people focus on what I perceive are the real issues in the world. Regardless of who you voted for in the last elections.

Whatever. Maybe I will vote for El Cid and his history degree for president.

12:41 PM  
Blogger MattKelly54 said...

Oh I forgot:

Health Care Reform
Gays in the military
Social Security reform
Abortion

All of these issues get so much press from history majors, yet nothing ever seems to be done. But the federal reserve and the IRS. The odds of anything being done on those is infinitely lower than the other BS issues.

1:02 PM  

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