EFR is on my buy list.... Names I like and own are: FMS, DVA, UNH, CVS and a bunch of beaten down large cap tech names - CSCO, MSFT, and INTC, although expected to guide downwards due to slower tech spending...
If you like Wellcare then you can probably get it on sell tomorrow after Coventry had a complete disaster of a report after hours today (stock is down 30% in after hours). Coventry completely messed up its Medicare pricing, which doesn't tend to be a company specific issue (i.e. others in the Medicare Private Fee for Service will likely have similar issues). Like Dov, I also like UNH but fear these companies could essentially turn into utility companies longer term.
WCG is seemingly dirt cheap, but as I remember has some significant legal risks (FBI raided its offices last year…hence the stock dump from 100+ to the current levels) which no one has any idea what the outcome may be, so I would stay away...never good to be involved in FBI raids esp. in healthcare...see THC after 2002:)
The problem with buying when there is blood in the street is that the street might get bloodier. Some of my recent trades will look good on my gravestone. Before then, not so sure.
John Rex at JPM at really good and pretty balanced. Matt Borsch at GS is a big bear and I disagree with his analogy with the property & casualty industry. I can send you primers from both of them. There is a lady from Bernstein, who I never heard of, just rolled out on the group so her work is new. I'm not sure if she is any good but I can send it to you.
Full disclosure on airlines... I have received private information on U.S. Airways and they were not part of my general statement that airlines look attractive. I have no opinion (at least no public opinion) on them in general. Ya know, just in case the legal types ever read this thing.
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EFR is on my buy list....
Names I like and own are: FMS, DVA, UNH, CVS and a bunch of beaten down large cap tech names - CSCO, MSFT, and INTC, although expected to guide downwards due to slower tech spending...
GWW, FAST, COL, ROLL, PEP, ANSS, BLKB, MLHR
I've already caught a couple of falling knives that I'll keep to myself...
Yo Dov, have you looked at WellCare. I have never bought a health care stock but Pabrai and others seem to like this a lot.
and I bought Ascent Media which apparently sumzero told me to buy today. Hopefully I can prop up the equity price.
If you like Wellcare then you can probably get it on sell tomorrow after Coventry had a complete disaster of a report after hours today (stock is down 30% in after hours). Coventry completely messed up its Medicare pricing, which doesn't tend to be a company specific issue (i.e. others in the Medicare Private Fee for Service will likely have similar issues). Like Dov, I also like UNH but fear these companies could essentially turn into utility companies longer term.
WCG is seemingly dirt cheap, but as I remember has some significant legal risks (FBI raided its offices last year…hence the stock dump from 100+ to the current levels) which no one has any idea what the outcome may be, so I would stay away...never good to be involved in FBI raids esp. in healthcare...see THC after 2002:)
The problem with buying when there is blood in the street is that the street might get bloodier. Some of my recent trades will look good on my gravestone. Before then, not so sure.
I'm sure no one will buy them and everyone will think I'm a nutjob (and this has the potential to blow up in my face), but I like the legacy airlines.
Sorry dude, I would like to roll with you on the airlines but it violates my rule #1. Whitebox loved airlines.
Are there any good primers on managed care? Who is the best on the street?
John Rex at JPM at really good and pretty balanced. Matt Borsch at GS is a big bear and I disagree with his analogy with the property & casualty industry. I can send you primers from both of them. There is a lady from Bernstein, who I never heard of, just rolled out on the group so her work is new. I'm not sure if she is any good but I can send it to you.
Gutsy call on airlines. I couldnt do it but there will be money to be made at some point.
What is the bull case for UNH?
Full disclosure on airlines... I have received private information on U.S. Airways and they were not part of my general statement that airlines look attractive. I have no opinion (at least no public opinion) on them in general. Ya know, just in case the legal types ever read this thing.
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